The more money they get the less they'll do.
keep expenses down get rid of the dead wood and i'm sure there are plenty that will save money

There you have it, Tax and Spend Liberals at their best. They voted as if it was truly the end of the world on the 21st. I'm surprised they didn't vote them a 500 % increase but fortunately we survived and now have to deal with the 2%. Denise "CPA" Dicarlo's evasive maneuver saying that Sam Cianfarinis's statistics should have come sooner, now it's too late, was lame at best. Saving this town money is never too late. You should have voted No. Donna "I'll think about it next year" Zymborski, I know, you're just being Donna, nothing more to say. Sean "I want to look good to my employee buddies" Kilpatrick, You have an infantile understanding of how government works. You have been on the fence for a while but now I would consider you to be part of the problem. You should have voted No. To all of those who voted Yes, I would ask you, how are you going to pay for this increase. I would suggest eliminating the entire Fiscal department and putting it in the hands of an outside vendor. That just might offset this increase. Something for the other departments to consider though, If privatizing works for one department, it just might work for all. Enjoy your big 2% while it lasts.

Most of the township employees I know are great people and they as all of us deserve and could use an increase in wages given the current economic climate and how it effects families. The debate whether they should or have should not received the raise is one issue.

The other issue here and more importantly is the inability for the committee to come to consensus on the important issues and the constant ad nauseam rhetoric; " I was just handed this before the meeting" or "this is the first time im seeing this" or "why didn't you bring this up before".

Mr Cianfrrani may have given some specific facts that you were not exactly aware of is one thing but to say "why didn't you discuss these statistics before" is an utterly rediculious statement. Mrs DiCarlo did you not realize that we are in a foreclosure crisis in this country and oh yeah NJ too? Did you not know the inflation rate was high despite not know the actual percentage and a 37% increase in WD salaries since then.

It is one thing to defend your position with facts but not this continual banter of Mrs Cymborski and yourself that every piece of communication is not shared. If I here it one more time I'm gonna vomit.

And to the test of the committee maybe you should devise a working plan to share all of the relevant information prior to the meetings so this cannot be used as a lame defense.

In closing.....
Finally, each committee member should never forget why one holds political offiice and work for the people by the people not for yourselves.

If you closed your eyes at the meeting you would think you were at a Docimo township meeting.... Spend, spend, spend with no end and the party faithful clapping their approval.

So your telling us the residents that even the employee's that stole from us (i.e.) the water department also got raises?There are a lot of good people working at the twp. but there is also some bums,everyone deserves a raise but now is not the time,my company put a freeze on all raises until the economy gets better. This is just unbelievable they voted for this during the current state were in.

if our taxes go up the ones to blame our the people that voted in Dicarlo. if it does it won't hurt my pocketbook but there are a lot of residents that live pay check to pay check if they got a paycheck coming in at all.
maybe it's time for pink slips instead of raising taxes to offset this 2% raise.
with this economy struggling and many people's in come on a frozen status,this is not really the good time to increase their income especially since they been getting raises every year.
Dicarlo I voted for you and now i'm sorry i did.
you should be barred from politics forever you are not for the people.

Why did the mayor and Sam vote the raise in the budget but want to shoot it down now? Oh they knew they didn't have the votes to stop it, so now they can look like the hero's trying to save the tax payers thousands of dollars with out actually cutting anything. I would guess they asked Sean to vote yes just to cover their backs. Why wasn't this shot down back in April when it should have been. Those two are very wishey washy. They look very untrustworthy lately.

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY did the past administartion steal from the residents.
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY did the past administration LIED to the people of this township.
WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN WHEN will the people realize that the taxes in this town are going up because of the democRATS vote.

I swear they must get together and decide who gets to be the "good guys" on each subject to try to pull the wool over our eyes. I am so tired of hearing, "I deserve..." The fact of the matter is that you don't always get what you deserve and sometimes you don't deserve what you get. On my street and the street next to me, alone, we have FIVE empty, forclosed homes. The eyesores that these homes have become/are becoming are only reflected in the resale value of our homes, not the assessed value. So while our homes are assessed at and we are paying taxes on $150,000, they are actually only worth 2/3 of that. The twp., is not only doing a poor job of running our town and managing our money, they are doing a poor job of maintaining the value that we do have. If they want a raise, here's a novel idea...WORK for it! Employees of WD are enjoying their lives and living in comfort, while some of us are wondering how we are going to make our next mortgage payment, keep the heat on and wondering how we are going to provide a decent Christmas for our children. Wake up and join the rest of the world. Most of us are broke.

I got to laugh at William Libby's comments,you must have gotten beat up a lot when you were a kid.your statements are false and typical dumocrat full of lies. before you post get your frickin facts right.your nothing but a loud mouth individual that doesn't know what he's talking about.
You got to be a hated individual because you have a lot of hate in you.
As far as this raise is concerned with the way the economy is struggling what the committee should do is get rid of all the employees and i'm sure with people looking for work hire and pay them half. A ton of money will be saved and with the past admin putting this town in such a mess it would bring back a little.

Is that the strip club that the past democrats allowed in town William?

And.......does it really matter where the money comes from to help the less fortunate whether its the steel workers union (oh no, they didn't give this year) Angelini (oh no he didn't give this year), the WD Democrat club (oh no they didn't give this year) or a strip club? I am sure the families that need the help don't ask where it came from. And since very little people know where that money came from, we will be able to figure you out Libby (A township employee) and you will be like the Finance department next.
What was really cool this year with the toy drive, no cheap photo op or the Mayor dressed as a santa for politic points while embarrassing the people in need. Looks like the township leadership finally has found some class

this year the township committee and mayor collected more toys than any other previous years kudos to the mayor and Sam,the others voted the toy drive down in lieu of raises for the employees.but the mayor stood firm and said we move on.
gee did denice ask her hubby for a donation towards the toys NO!

From the recent experience I had with two township employees and Richard Giuliani, they need courses in customer relations and common courtesy. They haven't got a clue as to how to treat the public who are the taxpayers who provide them with their salaries and benefits. While they also pay taxes, their salaries and benefits far exceed their tax contribution.

Mr Libby
Thank you for the intelligent and respectful remarks. I don't believe what Mr Cianfrani shared was novel information when defending his decision not to support the 2% raise. I did say in the same post that I believe the raise is well deserved and also called on the committee to work together in providing information in a timely manner. So in my opinion my comments define moronic. As for the spelling I aopogoze I generally rip this posts out quickly on my phone and my fat thumbs often span too many keys.

As far as the cell tower and solar panels; where are they? That is bipartisan effort that to this point are proving successful. Strange, I don't know you yet you seem to know me, moron and opponent of the tower and panel project. I look forward to discussing these issues in person.

Finally, the Champaign club? Turkeys? What are you talking about? Something you want to tell us? Have you seen me there? Do you frequent there? Please tell us.
Happy Holidays. Dave

It is not about D and R. This is not about Sam's wife's teachers union fighting for a raise that the BOE approved. It is not about who did or did not contribute to a toy drive. This is about the tax payers in this town. This is about basic economics we all should have learned in our government ran public schools paid for by the tax payers. If you have a mountain of debt to conquer, do you continue frivolous spending? Simple questions to answer:
-Is the tax payers money, the tax payer's money or money the government allows the tax payer to keep?
-Does the tax payer ever pay enough and the beneficiaries of taxes ever get enough?
-If the employees "deserve" a raise, does the tax payer and their families deserve a fiscally responsible government?
I guess this is what we get when we have three committee members, all who voted for the raise, who have private jobs which are propped up by the federal government bail outs and unconstitutional spending such as PBS.

Tom I couldn't agree more. Your comments are right on target. Too bad most of these tax and spend politicians are very frugal when it comes to supporting any charitable gestures at their own expense. It's always easy to spend other people's money. Even when they are exposed at a public meeting they have short pockets. Case in point the use of Riverwinds by the Hybernia Association. As I recall, Ray and Sam contributed personally, Sean was embarrassed into making a donation (especially after Larry Wallace wrote a check for $700) , however, Denice and Donna didn't step up to the plate with the other committee members and make a donation to the charitable event that sparked so much controversy.