Former Township Official Calls RiverWinds Loan Inquiry 'Politically Motivated'
Democrat Gerald White releases statement after township attorney Mark Cimino turns down his "suggestions."
While many governmental issues have found their way into the West Deptford political stream lately, the newest development comes from a lawsuit involving the township, Fulton Bank and allegedly misappropriated loan money.
The issue has current and former township officials bickering as questions about the money remain unanswered.
In a statement released this week, former township administrator and current West Deptford Democratic Party chair Gerald White contends that the lawsuit is “ a politically motivated smear campaign” targeting him.
“It’s saddening to see how toxic the government and political scene have become in the township,” White said.
West Deptford's township committee voted in September to sue Fulton Bank for approving payments beyond what the township guaranteed in relation to construction at the RiverWinds recreation complex.
White explains that such negativity is not the tone of Democratic politics, but is coming from Republican Committeeman Samuel Cianfarini. White says that Cianfarini is leading “a negative, nasty political campaign.”
In the November election, Democratic Committeewoman Denice Dicarlo and faces Republican Jeff Hansen in the race for a seat on township committee.
Bickering over a resolution
White released his statement after he received a letter from Mark Cimino, the township's redevelopment attorney, dismissing his proposed measures to resolve the issues with Fulton Bank outside court. White had asked that Steven Weinstein and Bruce Eisenberg be present at the meeting. White said he made the suggestion to provide further insight into the matter, as Weinstein served as bond counsel and redevelopment counsel to West Deptford and Eisenberg served as lead attorney in all commercial real estate transactions during that time.
“Why wouldn’t you want these two guys in a room together?” White said.
White also asked for all relevant documents to be assembled by both the township clerk and Fulton Bank, and forwarded to all participants in the meeting. Additionally, White asked for questions directed to him to be prepared ahead of time and submitted to participants. Cimino then sent a letter to White dismissing his requests as “a number of preconditions” that White “unilaterally want(s) to impose prior to even cooperating.”
“They’re not preconditions, they are reasonable, sensible suggestions to not waste taxpayers' money,” White said, adding that his proposals were solely to expedite the meeting between him and Cimino.
After sending Cimino another letter asking him to reconsider his position, White then released his statement characterizing the inquiry into the RiverWinds golf course and tennis courts loan as just another political move by Republicans led by Cianfarini. White predicted the township lawsuit will fail.
“West Deptford taxpayers won’t get one dime back from Fulton Bank, but Mr. Cimino will personally benefit greatly from this lawsuit,” White said in his statement. “That is why he refused to take the case on a contingent fee basis, insisting on getting paid by the hour.”
Response to White’s statement
In response to a Gloucester County Times article that included White’s statement, West Deptford Republican Party chair Denny Forte offered his own statement refuting many of White’s claims. Forte supports Cimino, saying he “is well-worth what he is being paid” and points to the Rivercove deal, which he says produced a $1.5 million payment to West Deptford.
“White’s prediction can be expected from someone who is doing his best to cover up years of corruption and mismanagement,” Forte said in his statement.
Cimino says he was caught off-guard by White‘s statement.
“I’m a little bit surprised, because I was authorized to move forward on this by a bipartisan unanimous vote,” Cimino said in response to accusations from White that the Fulton lawsuit was politically motivated.
Currently, there is no court date set for the lawsuit again Fulton Bank. Cimino says after a meeting with the bank, he is awaiting a response on whether representatives will begin negotiations or set a court date.
Cimino says he had only a very simple request when he wrote to White, intending to sit down one-on-one to talk about the $3.6 million of non-construction costs Fulton Bank claims is part of the township’s guarantee.
“You would think he would put the interest of the town before any interest he may have, political or otherwise,” Cimino said of White’s statement.
Cimino said he only intends to move forward in the lawsuit and is only looking for answers from White.
Click on the PDFs, above right, to view the statements and correspondence.
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Wayne Klotz
10:34 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
I see nobody cares about mr. CIMINO making a profit off of us taxpayers!!
Line Denny's Pockets
10:48 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
The only reason Sam, Forte and CHintall allow Cimino to run amok and waste hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars is because they get kickbacks in the form of campaing contributions. This is purely a massive pay-to play scam and a waste of taxpayer dollars. They will not get one cent back from Fulton and they all know it. Yet they continue to line Cimino and Forte's pockets
Wayne Klotz
11:58 am on Friday, October 12, 2012
You know how it is with these three ! spend on useless people like CIMINO, but tet's blame others so we can cover CIMINO' 's
profit
Occupant
1:04 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
If one has to "Lawyer up" just to have a man-to-man talk with Cimino, that tells me he is afraid he might say something to incriminate himself. An honest person would have no need for lawyers.
Wayne Klotz
2:02 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
Only to protect his rights, or do you think that's wrong, mr.occupant! the twsp. is going after the bank. my question is do we need a waste like CIMINO as a lawyer for the twsp.? answer is no we do not! Ask mark is he going to reimburse us or use it for hansen's campaign? think about this, sir!!!
Occupant
4:07 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
Protect his rights? What, the right to an attorney, if he can't afford one, one will be provided? Is that the rights your talking about Mr.Klotz? Its just a sit down. White said he would help the mayor if he was sincere. Well, now Cimino asks for his help with a few questions and he has to bring two attorneys? He's hiding something. Show me the money.
ROTFLMAO
3:20 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
G WHITE will look good in an orange jump suit.
Wayne Klotz
3:27 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
Good name for you! Instead of rot it should be misinformed! get the hint, ROT?!
Wayne Klotz
4:24 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
Well, occupant. It did not take long for you to respond. just a hint ray ,Sam and mark donor want to sit and talk. instead they want to do what they do best!!! try to ruin reputations!!
Eric Wyzykowski
7:31 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
Not sure why any township official who had knowledge that could possibly prevent the twp from losing a court case would stay quiet and then make a public statement. Even the two lawyers should provide any information they may have. Funny thing is, even with all the stipulations trying to be established up front for a sit down meeting, a subpoena to possibly testify later will remove any of these (please provide all questions up front, etc.) parameters.
redneckwillie3
9:07 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012
it was ok for Angelini to pilfage and rape the wallets of every taxpayer in the township and we're stilling paying for it.
People having a hard time with health care but Ole Anna Docimo gets her rewards even tho she works for the county.That's why I think some dems don't have their head screwed on right.
Wayne if you don't like what's goin on in this town you can leave and peace and happiness elsewhere like New Mexico.
Do you think people that go on here give two cents what you comment about.Not them,Not I or anyone else.
al henry
2:34 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Nice,..I agree with redneckwillie3.. Wayne if you don't like what's goin on in this town you can leave and peace and happiness elsewhere like New Mexico.
Do you think people that go on here give two cents what you comment about.Not them,Not I or anyone else.
Samantha McCall
8:46 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Wow, Mr. Klotz, i cannot figure out why you defend these people like there is no tomorrow. Mr. Angelini sure had a nice run for many years lining his pockets with taxpayers money. He got paid for sitting in the township meetings, and I believe that was $200.00, and let's not forget, they only lasted 20 minutes, not bad pay. He also received $75.00 for every resolution, and there were many. But, then again I don't remember seeing you at those township meetings. People have been complacent in this town for many years, and have allowed these people to help themselves to our money. They did not have our best interests in mind, only their own. They proved that by running our town into the ground, while at the same time voting themselves life time benefits, free memberships to Riverwinds, what happened to the taxpayer? We were the one's they were supposed to be looking out for, instead they looked out for themselves. This should outrage you! I don't know about you, but I don't like to be taken advantage of as a taxpayer.
Wayne Klotz
10:46 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Hey, a. h. great name but to bad you are a loser! As far as my water bill I paid it in full over 3 months ago,jack!! To bad you and the rest of your cowards friends donor have the guts to reveal your true names. Have a nice day,Jerry or who ever you are!!!
Wayne Klotz
11:23 am on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Ms.mccall. I agree with your comment but ask yourself a simple question. How much is mr.cimino charging the township or the township solicitor is charging? Or this not a problem for you?
Wayne Klotz
1:24 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
You still donot get it do you loser! You are afraid to use your real name because your a coward! When you have something intelligent today please use your real name, mr. Coward!!!!
Wayne Klotz
4:16 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Attention everyone: we have an award to give to two people. One goes to occupant for being a loser! The second award goes to Kerry whitey foe being a coward! What I really mean is you two donot have the guts to leave your real names! Presenting your awards is Sam, ray, Ernie, John r. And bomb.
Occupant
4:56 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Gloucester County Times 1013/12 page B-9... Wayne R. Klotz.$444.53. Yo're the only Klotz in town, If that's you, stop playing on the computer and please pay your water bill. Losers don't pay their bills Wayne.
Wayne Klotz
5:01 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
I cannot wait to hear your stupid comments come Thursday! Look for me coward where I'll make more sense then your CRONIE misinformed friends. I also had a beer on your family but they could not afford my drinks. Says something about your intelligence which is not a lot!
Wayne Klotz
5:06 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Occupant , like I told jerry the loser you donot have much sense to even be on the computer, I guess I will see you two losers on Thursday nite? I will be wearing a phillies jacket or shirt. see I am areal man . how about you, coward?!!
Wayne Klotz
5:10 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
jerry, get a life or ask mrs. Jerry if they are hers!!
Wayne Klotz
5:32 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Jealous because you cannot afford one?
al henry
7:17 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Holy smoke it's true! Wayne if this is you that's in the Gloucester County Times today (10/13/12 page B9) I'd be hanging my head in shame. Surely a fine upstanding Dem such as yourself would never allow his water bill to lapse. Isn't this one of the reasons for the investigation? Any credibility you may have had on the patch just went down the crapper.
My Town Too
7:38 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
So Wayne....if you can afford a nice Philllies jacket and all these 30 packs, how come you don't pay your water bill? So typical of a WD Dem.
Wayne Klotz
7:52 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
It is amazing how you cowards keep changing your names! It shows how low you two are! what names will you cowards use next:! Santa clause? Bah! Him bugh
Wayne Klotz
8:32 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Al Henry; I just checked the tax records and cannot find your name.why? before you grow stones check your own house!
Wayne Klotz
8:33 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Sorry,al. I meant stones!
My Town Too
8:38 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Wayne, I've been on here for years with this handle. Its my right to use or not use my name, there are legit security reasons why you shouldn't use your real name online. My handle shouldn't be the issue, your lack of a reasonable debate is the issue.
My Town Too
8:38 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
And where do you find a WD taxpayer list online?
Wayne Klotz
8:47 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
My town too; I think you are afraid because you are afraid of the truth. so come up with something better than that. also why do you have to ask where I got this info. If al does live in west Deptford. I also wonder if you even exist at all!
My Town Too
8:57 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
curious, that's all. I think you are bluffing. Once again, you prove that you cannot give a logical answer and continue to skirt the issues at hand.
redneckwillie3
9:11 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
all those comments you made are bogus.can't even pay a water bill residing at lynn avenue.maybe you can seek help from one of the corrupt employees.he can give you advice how to go another 6 months without paying.
you really dragging the party you asscoiate with down to sewer level.what will you be giving out on halloween SCARY!
Wayne Klotz
9:19 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Are you sure I am bluffing,my town too? Makes you wonder how I got this info. but I hope you and big al do live in west Deptford! Have a nice note and when you go to bed think about this; I live here and I love my town!!!
Wayne Klotz
9:22 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Hi Willie;answer this. Are you a resident of west Deptford? I'll bet you don't and you probably donot pay taxes! Have a nice nite!!
al henry
9:47 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
Yes Wayne, I am a responsible W.Deptford homeowner. I understand my wife & her brothers know you. As well as "Chipper",.."Den-Ho",.."Billy R.". Back then you where affectionately known as "Klutzy".
Wayne Klotz
10:06 pm on Saturday, October 13, 2012
I know chip and billy r. Very well. As far as den-no, he has and always will be a loser! get my point,AL?
Bill Bondar
7:18 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
I think you guys should go out and get a coffee together. Everyone is off topic here... We were talking about the Cimino investigation, not the Klotz interrogation. We are live here in West Deptford, (Dem and Rep) lets just all get along. Ok?
Wayne Klotz
9:09 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Bill,I agree! Please forgive me for my comments, but they donot want to hear the real truth! again forgive me!
redneckwillie3
11:40 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012
THE REAL TRUTH IS YOU OWE ON YOUR WATER BILL KLUTZY.I know you from coming in my business and your far from being called mr.personality.KICK IT TO THE CURB WAYNE. realize that your backing certain individuals that are fraudelent and corrupt and you want people to adhere to your comments.GRIP UP AND PAY UP.
Wayne Klotz
12:52 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Willie; you are so ignorant and a person who needs a lesson about respect! Oh, I forgot! You don' t have respect even for yourself! If I do go to your place of business how come you are not a man to confront me about the issues! We can be men not a mouse whice, by the way you write to patch, you are
Wayne Klotz
1:12 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
If you are not ignorant which you say you are not, then stick to the issues and not talk about my water bill which is paid in full. If that's all you got to talk about then maybe you should give your fingers a rest, Willie! Truth hurts doesn' it
My Town Too
1:35 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Wayne, are you going to take the mike on Thursday and complain about them "mistakenly" posting your name? Maybe the can post that on your secret information WD resident file.
Wayne Klotz
1:54 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
My town too; you never said if you pay taxes or a resident of west Deptford! WHY?! Afraid of the truth?!
Samantha McCall
2:49 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Mr. Klotz, it does not bother me what Mr. Cimono is making, he is uncovering a lot of what was going on in this township. I don't appreciate being taken advantage of as a taxpayer. These people took care of themselves at out expense. Does that not bother you? This investigation has uncovered what is wrong in politics today. Someone benefited from this and it wasn't the taxpayer. Did you not have a problem when Mr.Angelini was being paid? I don't remember seeing anyone complaining about that. There has been some wrong doing somewhere, and I would like to know who benefited! I don't have a house at the shore, do you? I don't get lifetime benefits, do you? There is something wrong with this picture.
redneckwillie3
2:50 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
wayne just want to let you know I am a resident of west deptford I reside in Rolling Brook and my water bill is up to date. fyi you still owe 443 on your water bill.
but what you say like the previous commenter said grab the mike and complain if you got the Go-nads. Hypocracy your middle name Wayne
Wayne Klotz
2:55 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Well hello, ms.mccall. Are you trying to sway the question I asked my town too or are speaking for him?! under the last administration that you say is corrupt , do you have proof? ms. McCall compare your tax bill from this year to last years and see my answer to your question! Go eagles!!!
Samantha McCall
3:02 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
One more thing about Jerry White, and his comment on this being politically motivated, I believe all of these OPRA lawsuits are politically motivated. All of the sudden the republicans are being sued. I don't think that is coincidental, I would love to see who is really behind the lawsuits! Jerry White is a piece of garbage, and he is behind much of the bickering in this town, the man should be a man and come to the township meetings as a resident and not as political party boss. He is the one responsible for pitting republican residents and democratic residents against each other. Jerry White is for the party, and not the residents. Shame on him.
Wayne Klotz
3:03 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Willie; sorry for your neighbors! Please stop with the water bill crap! It is getting old and useless like your comments! Stick to the issues, Willie boy!
Wayne Klotz
3:10 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Where did you get your info. from ms. McCall? Sam and ray themselves? shoe is on the other foot and you and your low lives republicans cannot stand the truth! Gerry white is a very nice person but ray and CIMINO did not want to have a descent conversation! Why would they not want to, ms. McCall!!!
Wayne Klotz
3:24 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Oh by the way, it is ray and CIMINO who donot want to sit down and discuss this like men, not mr. white!
My Town Too
4:01 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Wayne: I do not owe you answer. I owe you nothing, actually and I am not afraid, as there is nothing to be afraid of. I refuse to answer your questions simply because its my choice. But about the prior administration being corrupt, it doesn't matter what we believe. The Attorney General Division of Corruption thinks there may be corruption, and they have enough proof to investigate so your statement holds no water.
Wayne Klotz
4:25 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
My town too; what a waste of time and money proposed by ray and Sam. I donot know wether to cry or laugh or both at the same time. do you pay taxes like I do? If you do you' should be mad as hell of something that is a waste of time
My Town Too
5:02 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
What I am mad as hell at is not what Mr Cimino is being paid. I am mad that there is 4.5 million dollars not properly accounted for under the "nice guy" Jerry White's watch. I am mad as hell that the AG Corruption unit has to be here.
Wayne Klotz
5:33 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Take it up with the bank if your that mad. Also take your madness out on mr.cimino for accepting payment from us taxpayers like me! What about you my town too?!
Wayne Klotz
5:36 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Willie, I own my house plus I also pay my taxes,to! you must think I am right if you respond to my articles,joker!!
Samantha McCall
6:10 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Mr. Klotz, you still have not answered any of my questions. I answered your question, why will you not answer mine? Do you think that the attorney general's office would be wasting their time if there was nothing to investigate. There is documentation, Mayor Chintall and Sam Cianfarini, didn't just wake up one day and say,"$4.5 million is missing!" Come on, use your head. I should ask, how long have you been going to township meetings? And did you have any questions for the previous administration? Please answer my questions Mr. Klotz, because sometimes I find this exhausting, just a simple answer.
Wayne Klotz
6:35 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Ms.mccall; the only reson the attorney generals office is here because of facts not truth. Answer this; how come there is no investigation into the so called threats made against ray and Sam which has not been mentioned in months!or did you forget about that?! Something fishey about the whole thing!! Maybe the attorney generals ought to investigate!
My Town Too
6:57 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
The courts are taking it up with the Bank on behalf of you and me. But this happened under Dem control and the nice guy's watch. And you think people will vote for DD when she is part of JWs machine? And newsflash: The audit report has never been rebutted or denied. The AG is coming in based off the facts that lie in that audit.
Wayne Klotz
7:10 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
My town too; you also speak for ms. McCall? I like to know where you get your information at? Sam, ray, Ernie ,red neck Willie or occupant?!
Occupant
8:40 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
I get my information directly from the township meetings. Anything outside of that are lies and BS, like the stuff on this forum.. Except for the fact that you didn't pay your water bill. Now that's the truth.
Steve Colosanti
8:46 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Is this West Deptford Patch or Comedy Central.
There are 61 comments and Wayne you have 32.I think that could be listed in the Guiness Book of World Records.
Wayne do you ever feel like your a hamster and West Deptford is the spinning wheel .The wheel just goes round and round and round and your little feet go a mile a minute.
All comments on here are intelligent and they stick to the topic,but you diverted into name calling and democratic insults toward other people.
Whatever your problem may be or whatever medication your on you got to lighten up a bit.Just sit back and wait till Nov. 6th and who ever wins then you can have a field day if your party wins.Otherwise CHILL.
Occupant
9:02 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Methinks Wayne has been sucking on that marsh spooge that flows in behind his house at high tide.
Samantha McCall
10:29 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
There should be a "like" button!
My Town Too
8:55 pm on Sunday, October 14, 2012
Just speaking in general Klotz, not on anyone's behalf. Not sure what you mean "where do you get your information?". Anything I stated is fact. FACT: The AG Corruption Division is investigating WD W&S dept due to findings of an audit. This is not anything other than public knowledge from attending Committee meetings and reading the newspapers. FACT: the Committee voted 5-0 to send Mr. Cimino's findings to litigation.Not split, no arguments 5-0. I am sorry if that's too many facts for you to absorb at once, but that's how I get my information.
Wayne Klotz
6:53 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
Question; do you all pay taxes? How about you, Steve?
Occupant
7:09 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
I pay my taxes and my water bills. Just sayin
Wayne Klotz
7:08 am on Monday, October 15, 2012
And Steve, if that's your real name they donot want to hear the truth! The real truth!