West Deptford’s recreation department came under fire again Thursday night, as Committeeman Sam Cianfarini first proposed a further hike in summer rec fees while questioning whether the township is losing money on the annual effort, before ultimately advancing the original amended fee ordinance setting this year’s rate.
Cianfarini initially put forth the idea to establish the summer rec fee at $250——then immediately tacked on the possibility of hiking it even further, up to $300 for anyone registering after June 15.
But that was met with resistance, as Committeewoman Denice DiCarlo noted the summer rec guides had already been sent out with the fee set at $250, and no hint of a possible late registration fee.
“I think it’s a little unfair,” she said. “We’ve already noticed the whole town.”
Cianfarini acknowleged that point, then raised the concern the rec program had been sent out before the fee, which was raised $50 from last year, was finalized by the township committee.
“We’ve got the cart before the horse,” Cianfarini said.
Cianfarini then attacked the accounting by Ley on the summer programs’ cost, claiming he hadn’t seen any of the details of the income and expenses before getting a memo on them Wednesday—though Ley and Kilpatrick had detailed the cost and proposed rate hike back on March 21, in a public session of the rec advisory committee.
“I don’t know that a thorough and accurate accounting has been done,” Cianfarini said. “We’re not sure at this point in time it covers the cost of this program.”
When DiCarlo pointed out she’d put together an analysis of the entire recreation budget—an analysis she’d handed out when the township committee debated the summer concert series—Cianfarini dismissed it, claiming there were multiple errors in judgment in how that was put together.
And while Ley and Kilpatrick’s presentation cited the $250 fee bringing the program’s income above its costs, which run about $70,000, Cianfarini claimed that failed to take into account things like insurance bills and management salaries—costs that exist even without the summer rec program.
Cianfarini also raised the issue of not adding more money to the township’s debt and trotted out the same argument he and Mayor Ray Chintall made during , pointing out the township needs to consider replacing fire apparatus and repairing an aging sewer pump system.
“We have to prioritize,” he said.
Cianfarini even went so far as to broach the idea of privatizing the entire program, though he didn't go into specifics on that notion.
But when solicitor Anthony Ogozalek pointed out the old fee ordinance, which lists the summer rec program as a $200 cost, still technically holds, Cianfarini softened his stance, moving to pass the original version of the amended fee ordinance, which passed unanimously. He did so while noting it may be amended further after a full analysis of the summer program’s costs is done, however.
Cianfarini's efforts were met with some scorn during the public session, as Bill Gigliotti, who was one of several candidates put forth to replace former Mayor Anna Docimo on the township committee, took Cianfarini to task for going after the summer rec program.
“I was appalled,” he said, noting the committee had just finished recognizing outstanding athletes from the middle and high schools. “That’s your future.”
Eighty-two kids have signed up for the rec program in the first week of enrollment, Ley said, with the program already bringing in over $20,000.
Although I'm all for a program paying for itself, I'm aghast that Mr. Cianfarini asked about insurance and management costs that will be there with or without summer rec. The program is designed to benefit the children and the working parents of the township, not to be a moneymaker to help us pay our bills. Thank goodness Ms. DiCarlo spoke up about the unfairness of hiking prices after the brochure has gone out. If a retailer had done that, we'd call it false advertising.
Why not real reporting Brian instead of just Republican bashing. The people that speak out at Township meetings against everything that is discussed by the republicans are not your average citizens. One after another they are on the payroll and they are told what to say, when to say it and how to say it. It is even comical to watch when they speak and a question is asked, they are clueless in how to answer it as that was not part of their reherseal.
It seems that the average, not on the payroll citizens finally are being told the truth and want to make a change. I love it. The real "Change" is hoping there, in New Jersey and in West Deptford....good to see
Bill Gigliotti
Thanks for your time.
Everyone cares about the town and all that BS but no one cares that we are broke, it cracks me up. Everyone that speaks against the Republicans has a financial stake, plain and simple. As for Ken, tell me those people you list how much money they are taking from the public trough? Maybe the Vogt's just want a level playing field since they have a business in this town and have had it for years, had to get a liquior bill the old fashioned way. If anyone here feels that it is fair they way the past administration has handled the golf course deal....please explain it to me.....would love to hear it.
As far as the rec programs I don't have kids that live at home but I sure don't want my tax dollars supporting programs that parents of kids should do Of couse no one listens to these meetings all they want to do is attack these people were elected they got a job to do so let them do it and if you don't like it vote them out when their time is up so you can bash the next administration
One last thing, have we not beat the herion high thing to death? We all know there are drugs in that school. There was when you went there mr. gigiliotti, there is now and there will be 10 years from now. We are all concerned about the kids 'Our future" and make an issue of raising glorified day care by $50 but if an elected official asks a question about drugs in our schools it is bad? I am guessing little johnnie or Julie being able to make a space man out of popsicle sticks is more important than Johnnie or Julies older bother/sister O.D.ing. Yep, you people make perfect sense.
1. You have donna wanting to walk out in the middle of a meeting,TYPICAL. 2.Then you have Denise always saying " oh but fellas I didn't have enough time to look over what was presented to me " 3 Gerry white choreographing the two dems what to say when to say it and how to say it 4. then you have a handful of people wanting to extend the litigation process with sunoco so they can pay higher property taxes ( ingenious ) 5 Oh the rec program God forbid if we do away with the obligation of babysitting the poor kids while they learn how to build blocks which no one is trying to take away just being fair to the public so taxpayers don't have to foot the bill. 6. most of all let's not forget the residents that voted our 3 republicans in office they should be in the cheers section of the times.Kudos for keeping the democrats whining and moaning since they don't have control of the township
recreation for the kids is great but how many benefit from such programs or involved. The previous administration left this town in bad shape when they turned it over to the new admin. But with all the criticism on here I don't see anyone putting there name in to run.This country is sinking and sinking fast high umemployment,home values dwindling jobs lost and all you people are worried about is if little jimmy has a place to go for the summer.is the rec programs self sustained or does it depend on taxable dollars charity begins at home not in the township
My concern is folks like Mr. Bondar who post a comment that obfuscates the issue at hand with a "ooh look shiny object" comment. His comment, and Mr. Cianfrini's outrage, make it seem as if the township is ignoring the pump in order to have this summer rec program (yes, you would call a plumber, perhaps Joe the Plumber even, and not send your kid to camp). That does not appear to be the case. A prevailing and ongoing problem on this and other local boards is the constant arguing and distraction from the issue. We clearly have an issue with this pump. Let's focus on how to fix that issue and stop confusing it with a summer rec program that is not diverting any funds from the pump. That's how we solve problems, not with blatant falsehoods and misdirection.