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Daws: Meeting With Sunoco Officials Violated Sunshine Laws

West Deptford's committee allowed Sunoco representatives into a closed session earlier this year, which former Mayor Len Daws said breached the state Open Public Meetings Act.

A January closed-session meeting of the that led to the settlement of Sunoco’s dispute over property tax appeals at likely violated the state Open Public Meetings Act, according to former Mayor Len Daws and several open government advocates.

It was at that meeting Sunoco and township officials met directly, behind closed doors in executive session, to discuss the particulars of the case and the potential settlement, which Daws, who said that kind of meeting had never happened during his tenure on the township committee, contends goes outside the bounds of the purpose of a closed session.

“As soon as you involve involve the litigant, you nullify the intent of the closed session,” Daws said. “That's when they stepped over the line.”

Minutes from that meeting, though redacted, show three Sunoco representatives, including two direct employees of the corporation, had discussions with the township committee during the closed session.

Attorney Jeff Gordon, of Archer & Greiner, and two employees from Sunoco’s tax divison—Rich Booker, director of tax controversy and state tax planning and Robert Dietz, vice-president of tax—were involved in the closed-session portion of the meeting, which, according to the minutes, involved both an overview of each side’s position and a back-and-forth question-and-answer session.

Walter Luers, an attorney with the New Jersey Foundation for Open Government, agreed with Daws about the committee pushing the boundaries of a closed session by bringing in Sunoco officials.

“This is a blatant, open and obvious violation of the Open Public Meetings Act,” Luers told Daws in an email.

Likewise, John Paff, chair of the New Jersey Libertarian Party's Open Government Advocacy Project, said the violation was obvious.

“If they had representatives from Sunoco in the room, that was wrong,” he said.

Mayor Ray Chintall said the township committee believed they were acting in good faith, and never heard any concerns over bringing in Sunoco’s people heading into that January meeting.

“If there was any concern, the attorneys should’ve raised it,” he said. “You’ve got rely on your professionals.”

West Deptford solicitor Anthony Ogozalek told Daws in a public session the fact that the matter is ongoing litigation made the closed-session dealings OK, despite Daws’ contention otherwise.

“We do not see the law that way,” Ogozalek said. “We believe it was done correctly.”

Daws, for his part, said he has no interest in pursuing the matter into the court system, which he said would be costly, time-consuming and unproductive, but said the public has a right to know what happened in that closed session, including the details of the settlement, beyond just the dollar figure.

That would give residents the chance to raise specific concerns ahead of the settlement’s finalization, rather than have the details come out at the end of the process.

“At that point, there's not much the public can do to weigh in,” Daws said.

While the dollar figure came out when , Chintall said no further details will be shared, citing the need for confidentiality in what is still technically ongoing litigation.

There still remain a few hurdles—including the approval by the state’s Local Finance Board, which won’t hear the matter until April at the earliest, based on its calendar, and a final bond vote to fund the repayment of property taxes—before the settlement can be declared final.

Grand Oil Party March 06, 2012 at 01:32 PM
Once again Chintall and CIanfarini refuse to disclose any details despite their constant cat calls for transparency during the previous administration and continue to violate the open public meetings act. These two have no respect for the law of the land. What does their little puppet Kilpatrick think of this outrageous behavior?
John Hayden March 06, 2012 at 01:34 PM
And the parade of anonymous commenting clowns begins...
Samantha McCall March 06, 2012 at 01:55 PM
Oh, and the previous administration had respect for the law of the land? There were so many back door deals in that administration that the public doesn't know about. And Len Daws, give me a break, why does your indignation come into play now? You were a big part of this problem, and now you want to act as if this is an insult to the taxpayer! Where have you been for the past 20 years? Oh, that's right, you too, were a puppet of Gerry White, and it looks like that might still be happening, what has he promised you?
steve houser March 06, 2012 at 02:00 PM
this is really a laugher. daws coming out of the woodwork. look what the residents had to put up with for the last 20 years. How many times did your admin push the envelope.does it really matter what goes on do you people really care.people live here and people move.out of 20,000 residents about 20% really can give 2 hoots what goes on at the municipal building day in and day out.All you people do is whine and complain over the stupidous crap. if you don't like what's going on move to another area where you'll be happy.or better yet put your name in the hat and run in the next election,but whining on here isn't going to change.2 months down the road this will all forgotten and another issue will be forthcoming.
BETTY NEWCOMB March 06, 2012 at 05:27 PM
Samantha you like to hear yourself talk. Do you really think that Chintall and Cianfarini are capable of running this township? And every comment you make you bring up Gerald White...Len has every right to speak his mind and you know he's not getting nothing from Gerald White only Sean is..
steve houser March 06, 2012 at 06:05 PM
hey betty newcumb you giving daws lap dances.Come on get serious,Daws you lost move on.take care of the park with your pooper scooper. always a dem never change all these years the residents had to put up with the crap your administartion dished out.Life moves on and so should you.woe is me!
BETTY NEWCOMB March 06, 2012 at 06:54 PM
NO BUT IS CHINTALL GIVING YOU SOME...
Tammy Romansky March 06, 2012 at 09:48 PM
Why does it always come down to bashing one side or the other? The fact of the matter remains that once againg the people of WD have to foot the bill without being asked. Closed Session vrs Public Session? Who cares? We are still being voluntold to pay this bill.
steve houser March 06, 2012 at 10:52 PM
Oh come on betty boop get a hold of yourself or is daws doing that. you don't have a clue Go to the meetings and you'll see g white in the back texting his puppets to what to say Oh do you have strings attached to you to. If you don't like what's going on go to the meetings and be heard instead of giving daws lap dances. whatever you say len,i'll do what you tell me to do len. oh gerry can i be of assistant. grow up
MacArthur March 06, 2012 at 11:23 PM
Had this happened under the old administration a year ago, this story would've been posted on WDTruth almost instantly, probably in 3 inch high letters. Pretty neat how quickly the opposition turns to apologists. This kind of thing is unacceptable from any politician, D or R or I or whatever. If it was just Daws and not other guys saying this, it'd be one thing, but that Paff guy's a Libertarian, and I'm pretty sure Gerry White doesn't get to tell some random North Jersey lawyer what to say about WD committeemen mucking up the system.
Mark S. March 07, 2012 at 02:01 AM
Your right this would of been in the GC Times and on WDTruth if this happened lastyear. I thought they did their homework before they got into office.
Trans Parency March 07, 2012 at 08:23 PM
So much for transparency out of Sam and Ray. This dynamic duo is extremely secretive.

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