Discounted, Fireworks Return to West Deptford Family Fun Day

Deputy Mayor Sean Kilpatrick said the township had negotiated a price break from the vendor. Committeewoman Denice DiCarlo asked whether the money would be better spent elsewhere.

FILE PHOTO: West Deptford Mayor Ray Chintall and Deputy Mayor Sean Kilpatrick at a township committee meeting. Credit: Matt Skoufalos.
FILE PHOTO: West Deptford Mayor Ray Chintall and Deputy Mayor Sean Kilpatrick at a township committee meeting. Credit: Matt Skoufalos.

West Deptford Family Fun Day will have fireworks after all this year, announced Deputy Mayor Sean Kilpatrick at the Thursday meeting of the township committee. 

“It’s a value to the community and something that I grew up doing," Kilpatrick said after the meeting. "One of our brands as a community is recreation and bringing the family together, and that’s something that this accomplishes.”

Although the approved 2013 budget included $5,000 for a fireworks show at the event, Kilpatrick said that township officials had negotiated a $1,250 price break from vendor Schaefer Pyrotechnics.

But despite the proposed $1,250 savings, Committewoman Denice DiCarlo suggested that the money could be otherwise spent restoring some of the cuts to township services in the amended 2013 budget.

“We decided to cut half-a-million dollars out of public works, but we left $5,000 for fireworks?” DiCarlo asked. 

“Don’t we think it might be better to take the $5,000 that was allocated and put it to the roads or the leaf collection or something? Has anyone considered that?” 

Mayor Ray Chintall responded that “from past experience” events like the community day “are of socially redeeming value.”

A year ago, the mayor had a different take on things, however, when the township had to eat $2,500 to cancel a fireworks display that had been postponed by rain.

In October 2012, West Deptford Patch reported that Chintall thought it was more prudent to dedicate the remaining $2,500 to an $18,000 repair job for the RiverWinds Community Center pool heater.

“Personally, for five minutes of excitement, I'd rather have heated water,” Chintall said at the time.  

The motion passed 3-1 with Committeewoman Donna Szymborski absent and DiCarlo voting against.

Harry Knowles August 04, 2013 at 11:18 AM
WD insider or is it Greg or John..... Do you know what was really cut? When they say they reduced the budget to the same level that was spent in 2012 that is not a cut, that's called a flat budget. This is something the whole country has been doing since 2007 with many in the private sector budgets going backwards..... That's what you so when there is less money flowing in an economy. Businesses understand they just can't raises prices so the cut expenses. We can sit here and discuss this all day but it is the one core belief difference between the two main parties in this country and town. The voters will decide in November the direction they want the town to go. Still not sure if you ever answered if the concert series covering all cost this year was good or bad?
wd_insider August 04, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Of course covering the concert series is good. I'm even for the fireworks if everything else in the town is taken care of. I'm just trying to get inside the minds of an administration that slashes budgets but spends onfireworks. Its like arguing with a bad umpire, at least be consistent. At least Tom sticks to his beliefs and says taxpayers shouldn't pay for fireworks. Like Cianfarini said "Just because you have the money for it, doesn't mean you have to spend it." Unless its brightly colored explosive eye candy I guess.
Harry Knowles August 04, 2013 at 11:45 AM
But, when they didn't have the money for summer rec and they pushed to raise the fees, the argument was the reps are anti children, anti WD and what WD is..... I just can't understand how the flip flopping back and forth works...... The residents are too smart for that and can see through it..... Pick a position and stick to it. Do you have any idea why the concert series covered cost this year Insider?
wd_insider August 04, 2013 at 11:56 AM
I'm not flip flopping. I like fireworks as much as the next 8 year old but if the parks are failing, wouldn't that money be better spent there, or on the air handlers or...
redneckwillie3 August 04, 2013 at 12:00 PM
the fireworks are covered by donations.taxpayers are not footing the bill.please people get your facts straight before you rant.local businesses made contributions,and if not satisfied go to the municipal bldg. and opra to see
wd_insider August 04, 2013 at 12:53 PM
Regardless, willie, like the mayor said last year, the money could be spent elsewhere rather than "for five minutes of excitement".
Tom Stanton August 04, 2013 at 04:51 PM
@wd_insider... I actually asked 2 local questions. redneckwillie3 answered one of my questions by informing us that the cost of the fireworks are covered by donations from the generous local businesses. As far as my second question, and your response, I will echo Samantha's sentiments by stating that a reduction in budget is not cutting essential services. As they say in show business... The show must go on! Thank you business owners for your kind and generous donations.
Gary Kuehnapfel August 04, 2013 at 11:29 PM
To Everybody: Sorry guys I've been out of the loop for two days and I'm trying to catch up. Now as far as the fireworks are concerned. I believe this administration took a lot of heat for not showing them in past years because of budget cuts and were trying to make political points by budgeting for them next year. To all those who say that essential services where not cut----THEY WERE CUT. Not eliminated, but severely cut and that's a fact! We do not have enough money to complete the budget this year or next year, or the year after that, and in the foreseeable future.
Gary Kuehnapfel August 04, 2013 at 11:34 PM
To the rep.'s: The fact is the fireworks were budgeted for and essential services were cut. It's great if we have some credits and some donations have cut the cost. That doesn't change the fact that this administration chose fireworks over snow removal and leaf collection while we still have to bond to fix the pool.
Occupant August 05, 2013 at 06:49 AM
Gary, Where do you get your information about the the admin trying to make "political points"? If they got heat for not having fireworks last year, and they made a decision to budget them this year, where does "Political" come in? It's a decision because the majority of people wanted them. The committee made a conscious decision, Your inaccurate references are making it Political.
Occupant August 05, 2013 at 06:51 AM
"I'm not flip flopping. I like fireworks as much as the next 8 year old" quotes Wd_insider" ... You're giving away your age. I thought you were much older ;)
Occupant August 05, 2013 at 07:02 AM
Tom, Samantha, after reading most of Wayne's posts, I've come to the conclusion that Wayne didn't compose or write them. They are not Wayne's style. They are the party bosses words using Wayne's name. So in reality you are conversing to a wall.
Gary Kuehnapfel August 05, 2013 at 07:52 AM
To Occupant: I said I "BELIEVED" that's what happen! It's true I was not there when the rep.'s came up with this idea and neither where the dem.'s there either from the look of things at the meeting. However when Denise DiCarlo brought up this hypocrisy of budgeting the rep.'s just forced it through anyway. It's typical rep., blame dem.'s when they tax & spend , but ignore it when it's theirs!
Occupant August 05, 2013 at 09:33 AM
Gary, Both parties tax and spend, but I BELIEVE that the Rep's do it for the betterment of the township and taxpayers, not for party power and union goons.
Gary Kuehnapfel August 05, 2013 at 09:54 AM
To Occupant: I believe the betterment of the twp. would have been better served fully funding roads or leaf collection. How about using the money to fix the pool instead of bonding for it. I guess we have a difference of opinion on what it means to better serve the twp.. We will get the answer to that question on Nov. 5th.
Occupant August 05, 2013 at 10:22 AM
I already know that answer ... HANSON AND MAHER
Gary Kuehnapfel August 05, 2013 at 10:42 AM
To Occupant: Unless of course it's Jim Robinson or Adam Reid!!!
Harry Knowles August 05, 2013 at 03:43 PM
Gary, Air handlers at the pool have been broken for 8 years. How come those miracle workers you believe in didn't fix it while they were in power. Better yet , how come the roof has always leaked and they air handlers broke after 2 years of their $50,000,000 signature building???
Occupant August 05, 2013 at 04:26 PM
Gary, Allow me to answer that for you. Harry, They swept the problem under the carpet because they didn't have the cash to fix it. Now it's someone else's problem. (The taxpayers) The union installed roof still leaks and has for years, where's the warranty?
Harry Knowles August 05, 2013 at 05:32 PM
And Gary, just curious cause this will really tell us all if you care about the town at all or if your just party blind...... Has the republican majority...... Which has only been two years, done anything right?
Samantha McCall August 05, 2013 at 05:46 PM
Harry, I have been wondering that for quite some time. As long as there's an R on the forehead, as the mayor has said, I am going to say "no."
Harry Knowles August 05, 2013 at 06:25 PM
Yes Samantha you are correct....... I am betting Gary and Wayne are out there right now shaking all the trees in town so the leaves are falling and they can say, " I told you so" I could say more but it appears I am on super secret probation with my posts so I need to tread lightly
Matt Skoufalos (Editor) August 05, 2013 at 09:39 PM
You need to stop personally attacking people—just like everyone does—if you want your comments to stand, Harry. It's the same rules it's been since I laid them down. Again: I may not get to everyone at once, but I will get there in the long run. It's a disgracefully low level of discourse around here, and there are far too few of you who work to make it better.
Gary Kuehnapfel August 05, 2013 at 10:49 PM
To the Rep.'s: I never said the past dem.'s were perfect. However what I did say was I believe they did a pretty good job considering what they had to deal with. The Great Republican Recession did and is still doing a number on our twp. Repairs are one of those things that probable went on the back burner. Only essential repairs like pumping stations were dealt with. Now the air handlers at the pool have been become more of a priority and have to be dealt with. The issue I'm concerned with is that we now have to bond for the repairs instead taking it out of the surplus. That's what the surplus is suppose to be used for, not one shot political stunts!
Harry Knowles August 05, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Lol, too funny...... Did George Bush tell them to build the "David Shields" community center and to consign on a $10, 000,000 golf course Gary?
Gary Kuehnapfel August 05, 2013 at 10:57 PM
To Harry Knowles: Wayne and I do not have to shake leaves out of trees. Mother Nature is going to do that for us! It doesn't matter who does it. It is going to happen and when it does we are not going to have enough money to keep them out of the storm drains.
Harry Knowles August 05, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Yep Gary, no leaf pick up..... Ever again
Gary Kuehnapfel August 06, 2013 at 08:04 AM
To Harry Knowles: What can I say!!!!!
Occupant August 06, 2013 at 08:12 AM
*********** END OF THREAD ************
Wayne Klotz August 06, 2013 at 06:27 PM
Gary; not according to Mr. Know it all knowles, if that's his real name. When the leaves pile up on the storm drains, we'll probably have to rent boats! Or when we get the biggest snow storm, who will shovei our streets? Harry or Samantha? Neither, because they'll be crying we should have listened to you guys.


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