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Summer Rec, Concert Series Moves Would Put Programs in the Black

West Deptford recreation director Greg Ley laid out a plan for recouping all the costs of the summer rec program, and said fundraising is underway for the annual concert series.

West Deptford’s summer recreation program will be a bit more expensive for participants, but cost the township less this year, if a proposal from recreation director Greg Ley goes through.

Ley ran down his plan for the annual summer program, which is held at the , at the recreation advisory committee meeting Wednesday night, hinging it on a $50 increase on last year’s fee of $200 for the six-week program.

Going by last year’s attendance figures, Ley said the fee increase projects to put the program in the black.

“This proposal would mean it would be no cost to the township,” he said.

Last year’s summer rec program cost $70,190 to run, and Ley said if the attendance stays at 253 kids, as it was last year, the program should bring in just over $71,000, between registration fees, the latchkey program, which is $10 per day, and field trips, which run $15 each.

He pointed to the value of the program, which, even with the increase, breaks down to a little more than $40 per week, as compared to some other summer programs, which cost several hundred dollars per week.

“It’s still the greatest show in town,” Ley said.

Ley’s proposal still has to be approved before it can be finalized, but he said the summer rec information packet should go out to residents around May 14, and he said the interest is already spilling over.

“I’m getting calls right now,” Ley said.

Meanwhile, donations are already coming in for the annual , only a week after the township sent out a sponsorship request letter, Ley said.

A total of $7,000 has been pledged in just the first few days, and at least another $12,000 will come in from vendor’s fees, depending on whether any catering company bids above the $7,500 minimum for the food and alcohol contract.

After , amid , Ley said he and Deputy Mayor Sean Kilpatrick have been working on ideas on how to not only bring in as much revenue via vendors and sponsorships, but also cut costs.

“It's our goal to not only recover the cost of the bands, but of the police,” Ley said. “It’s going to take a lot more money to do that.”

What may go to helping that bottom line is the possibility Ley and Kilpatrick raised of potentially using a mix of regular and special police officers, rather than the all-regular police force that has patrolled the concerts in the past.

“That would be more cost-effective,” Ley said.

That's something Kilpatrick said he'll have to discuss with Mayor Ray Chintall, before anything can be done officially.

Recreation advisory committee chair John DiCarlo questioned whether the new minimum sponsorship—$1,000 this year, versus $500 last year—could hamper fundraising efforts.

Ley said it’s possible the lower minimum last year may have contributed to the shortfall.

“Every event, we had four or five sponsors up there,” he said, and West Deptford came up about $3,000 short just on covering the bands.

Still, Ley said they’re not ruling out smaller sponsorships this year.

Just doing what's right March 22, 2012 at 11:24 AM
I have only attended the concert series a couple of times. Once to drop my son off for a very popular artist. The RWs property is not set up properly to allow that many people on one road to attend this event. I scratch my head at the planning board and fire department allowing only one road in and one road out.
Bill Bondar March 22, 2012 at 11:41 AM
My friends and I attend and enjoy the summer concert series each year. It would be a shame to see them discontinued. I have some suggestions for Mr. Lay and Deputy Mayor Kilpatrick. (1) Eliminate the $7500 minimum fee. (2) Require the vendors to post a refundable performance bond. (3) Replace that with a cash free system whereby the employees at the Community Center sell coupon books of say $5, $10 etc. These can be purchased from the staff at any time of the day or evening. These coupons can be presented to any vendor at the concert in lieu of cash. (Less waiting in lines for change). (4) At the end of the event, the vendors can be reimbursed for the coupons they collected LESS a percentage that the township would receive for expenses, (printing of the coupons, prep, cleanup, police etc). This way, the township shares in the total gross of the concerts. And also everything is above the table.
grippedup March 22, 2012 at 11:52 AM
I am glad that Kilpatrick and Ley have the best interests of the town in their efforts, unlike Sam Cianfarini and Mayor Raymond Chintall. It seems like Greg Ley is really doing a great job! Ley 2 Chintall 1.
grippedup March 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM
I thought that Cianfarini and Chintall were going to bring "new ideas" to West Deptford via their 20-point plan? What ever happened with this plan? It seems to me that Ley and Kilpatrick are the ones doing all the work while Sam and Ray just just continue to beat to their own drummer and do nothing to try to remedy any situation. Once again, when playing with monopoly money and criticizing people on their half-baked website, everything seems like peaches and creme. Factor reality into the situation and Sam and Ray are failing horribly. What's going on with this 20-point plan?
Bill Bondar March 22, 2012 at 12:13 PM
If they (Ley and Kilpatrick) were doing a great job, the taxpayers wouldn't be footing the tip for this bill. I'm hopeful they can step up and do a better job where the taxpayers wouldn't have to pick up the tab. Mr. Cianfarini and Mayor Chintall are doing what the majority of voters elected them to do... cut the spending.
Vice Grips March 22, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Why dont Sam and Ray cancel all the football and wrestling matches too. The wrestling matches have 2 cops at every match and 4-6 cops at every football game. This would eliminate another 10 grand from the school's 40 million dollar budget. Doing a great job Chinatll & Cianfarini. PS Keep your hands to yourself Chintall, you big bully.
Dr. Kenneth Nosewater March 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM
The fact that you admit to watching the WWF speaks volumes about you.
Herb Dodds March 22, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Instead of hiring police officers for these events consider hiring an outside security company, many of the event staff at the susquehanna bank center are licensed security officers. They could deal with almost any situation that is presented to them.
WDconservative March 22, 2012 at 01:00 PM
Mayor Chintall and Committeeman Cianfarini are the leaders and are doing exactly what they were elected to do - Stop the unbridled Township spending !! Mr Ley and Committeman Kilpatrick should be following their lead and continuing down the path of building a Socialistic Recreational Empire. Yes, our kids are important and yes, their recreation is importatnt but not to the point where they will live miserable adult lives wallowing the the sea of taxes and debt their parents created living beyond their means.
WDconservative March 22, 2012 at 01:05 PM
CORRECTION ...............their lead rather than continuing down..............
ChuckWagon March 22, 2012 at 01:40 PM
ChuckWagon March 22, 2012 at 01:59 PM
I'm not a fan of any of this ridiculous politicizing of every issue that arises in WD. It just gets in the way of progress (for reference research: USA circa @ 1993 - present). But ask yourself this, if Cianfarini & Chintall didn't bring this issue up what would have been done to control the costs to run these programs? Probably nothing - and I'm not faulting anyone. Instead, raising this issue put into action people putting their heads together to come up with sound solutions. I call that progress and a job well done by everyone involved. Maybe we're turning a corner?
ConservativeMom March 22, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Why not charge an admission fee? I have attended almost every concert & would not mind paying a few bucks if it means the summer concert series continues. I really enjoy "Fridays at RiverWinds"...
purveyoroftruth March 22, 2012 at 04:04 PM
I really hope Kilpatrick is enjoying his time in office because the Republicans don't even want him anymore and he's finished. Leys weekend buddy should give up the free benefits he swore he wouldn't take during his campaign. Ley and Kilpatrick are both done hope they have fun eating seafood together.
Bryan Littel (Editor) March 22, 2012 at 05:42 PM
Good idea for next year, maybe, Bill - the contract's already out to bid for this summer.
Samantha McCall March 22, 2012 at 06:28 PM
Wow....that's deep. Maybe now he'll have to work for his paycheck (what a wild concept). 22 parks, and he says he can only approve of 20 being acceptable, why? What has Mr. Ley been doing all of these years? Monopoly money? I think the previous administration was big on monopoly money, definitely good at taking care of themselves, voting themselves lifetime benefits. That's really looking out for the taxpayer. Maybe if politicians started to look at the finances of the township as if it were their own money, we wouldn't be in this situation.
cochrane29 March 22, 2012 at 07:49 PM
Greg Ley is like Tim Kerr, fighting back! This guy is soley responsible for keeping both the Riverwinds Concert Series and the Summer Recreation Program when Sam Cianfarini and Mayor Raymond Chintall wanted to do away with them! In most cases, sequels are not better than originals, but in Greg Ley's case, they are: Ley Part 2 is more dangerous than Ley Part 1. He's here to stay folks, there will be no Gators slayed.
My Town Too March 22, 2012 at 07:52 PM
All for the ideas of cost cutting, but at the price of saftey? No. Dont even think of cutting WD Police. Thats insane! First of all, the whole concert series was paraded as a "community event". Our own police force knows who's who- what kids should and shouldnt be supervised, who the troublemakers are, etc. This isnt Sea Isle city or Ocean City, its our "community". Also, most officers live in town, I would rather see my tax dollars stay in town and feed a cop's kid than some stranger's. Find somplace else to cut!!!
ariel palacios March 22, 2012 at 08:41 PM
sean kilpatrick and greg ley should be an inspiration for all you wannabes that want to get into politicks.Sean maybe book smart but he certainly isn't street smart.he has a mind of a 17 year old. as far as greg ley he doesn't have a mind.at the ned of the concert season gonna have to opra and see if they do save money.just a matter of time ley will be saying his goodbyes.
WDNeedsHelp March 26, 2012 at 03:47 PM
Spoken like a true Party-Line-Democrat....Does Gerry White write all your material or is this just one of his aliases?
WDNeedsHelp March 26, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Spoken like a true Party-Line-Democrat....Does Gerry White write all your material or is this just one of his aliases?
WDNeedsHelp March 26, 2012 at 03:49 PM
Spoken like a true Party-Line-Democrat....Does Gerry White write all your material or is this just one of his aliases?


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